Wednesday, 1 May 2013

CLUB ASTORIA PLAZA MARKETING SCHEME (A SCAM OR NOT A SCAM?)

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I am in two minds whether to publish this post but I think blogging is a public service too, to some extent. Let me start off with this, I was with my friends when I got a phone call. Conversation went something like this:

Lotty: Ma'm this is Lotty. Inform ko lang po kayo na you won a ticket po sa Astoria. May 3-5 days hotel gift certificate din po kayo. You can claim it asap. Are you single?
CMK: Yes po (dumbfounded by her introductory question!)
Lotty: Kasi Ma'am you won a ticket po for 2, buffet siya at Astoria. Kayo po si Kristine... (mentioned my whole name) and your job is (mentioned my job title)
CMK: Yes po.
Lotty: Ma'am remember you've filled out a ticket sa Petron last week?
CMK: Yes po. (As you can see I've done most of the listening part).
Lotty: Pwede ko po kayong schedule bukas?
CMK: Wait po, I have work tomorrow, email me the details then we'll see.
Lotty: Ay Ma'am wala po kaming e-mail, text lang po (red flag!)
CMK: Okay po, may gagawin pa po ako so we'll keep in touch. What's your name madam?
Lotty: Lotty (plus her surname).
*** End of Conversation ***

Fast forward, I went home then proudly announced to mom that I'm no longer a loser on raffle tickets because at last I've won. Then mom candidly told me: "Scam yan." Me: Gulp. To make all things clear, I looked for reviews about this whole thing. Here are some true experiences I've found via blogosphere:

1. They'll invite you to a free lunch or dinner.
2. You will be asked to fill out a form with details such as your salary bracket, etc.
3. They will ask you to watch a 1.5 hour-long presentation.
4. They will offer you a membership fee worth Php 100,000 above!
5. Based on their experiences, they never get to use their GCs.

Now, the question: IS IT A SCAM OR NOT?
Scam is being defined as a dishonest scheme. It's for you to label it as a scam or not. It can be on a thin borderline between scam and hardcore selling. In fairness to the people behind this tactic, it's their way probably to market their subscription. However, they should have the HONESTY to let their prospective clients know from the get-go what is the real deal. Is it a free buffet, really? Or they are just beefing you up so you'll stick your ass off to watch their 90-minute presentation?

MY EXPERIENCE.
Well, I chose not to attend their buffet and presentation. Good to know that there are blog reviews to help us determine what's real and fake! Here are the blog links that I've read:

♣ HARDCORE SELLING: Club Astoria, Crown Regency Club Ultima and Club Bali Isabel Timeshare by Pink Mountains (click HERE)
♣ Club Astoria - Holiday Ownership Promo Marketing Experience by MMDC7 (click HERE)
♣ Club Astoria Marketing Scheme(s) -- "no strings attached" by Burberry Cheesecake (click HERE)

Let this be a warning to all of you guys. If time is a precious commodity for you, tactics like these can piss you off big time. I could just imagine my mom's reaction when she hears all about this. Moms know best indeed!

Be smart! Time is also a currency (like cash), so don't let these schemes get the best out of your weekend or whenever your free time is. -CMK

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  1. ths is kinda scary..good thing your mom warned you agad. Though it's kinda disappointing to hear you got excited for nothing. At least you didnt lose anything. If it were me and im still doubtful whether it's a scam or not, i'd ask myself if it's worth the risk :)

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    1. Hey Christine! Yup. Thank God we didn't go there to waste our time. Plus - I just hope marketing strategy like this would be more "honest" in the future :)

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    2. thank you for the blogs like this. all the concern. at least may mga kababayan tayong may puso para sa kapwa. unlike those scammers. grabe. our vacation in boracay turned into sleepless nights after. yes, we had our "free dinner" too and we regret everything that has happened after. 28K is a big money still. I had my contract cancelled and no refund.

      People, save yourselves. don't fall for their bait. mappressure talaga kayo and maeentice sa palabas nila. don't fall. stay away from all these kinds. you'd read a lot of blogs and reviews about these kind of bogus.

      lessons learned the hard way ang nangyari. they've got my hard earned money but i've got a clear conscience. wala ko naagrabyadong mga tao. karma na lang sa kanila.

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    3. huh they invite me today but i read this thanks for the info

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    4. huh thanks for info same thing they invite me today for dinner

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  2. Hi, I registered as a member last May 7,2013 I signed the contract, only providing my name and billing address and mobile num,And yesterday I cancelled it because I realized that their 'good' presentation is like a SCAM. Fortunately I didnt provide my credit num because that time I dont'have my card and I dont remember my card number. I also did not give any cash for downpayment cause I just went there to use the 'buffet' prize[Don't have enough money for downpayment]. Problem is, they are texting me now that there will be a mail to be sent in our home asking me to pay the 20k fine stated in the contract. Do I still need to pay that? Can they have me arrested/filed a case regarding this matter? Thanks.

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    1. Hi, First of all, thanks for sharing your experience. And I'm sorry that this has happened.

      As much as I would like to give a sound advice, I feel that I'm not in a position to do that since I'm not a lawyer.

      From what I've gathered, this activity is NOT registered with DTI (Department of Trade and Industry). This might be a good contention if they intend to file a case against you.

      I suggest that you DON'T pay any amount. Rather, consult with a credible lawyer about this. You may also call ABS-CBN / GMA hotline for free counseling. Who knows? This may be a good avenue to expose their dishonest scheme.

      I hope all things will be well with you.

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  3. This is a SCAM. save yourselves.

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  4. avoid club astoria at all times, and all its hard selling and evil marketing minions. nasira honeymoon namin dahil dito, bumigay kami sa pressure, 24k pesos downpayment from credit card, pag ipacancel 20k ang babayaran mo, so 4k nalang ang expect ko na babalik sa akin. sayang, nasira ang image ng boracay dahil dito sa scam na kagagawan ng mga mapanlinlang na holiday consultants at managers kuno. i hate club astoria, share nyo ang post na to, para maraming mawarningan bago pa sila maloko.

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  5. Thanks for this blog. We just received today a call and text from Leny Delos Santos of Astoria Plaza and told us that we won a free dinner good for too in Mariott Hotel 6-730pm July 9. We will be also claiming our gift certificate for a 3 days and 2 nights hotel accommodation either local or international with matching stub# etc. We have our lunch with my family in AA BBQ and there is actually a raffle ticket given to us and we just filled that up and that was the stub that we have won. We are about to say yes but my yaa texted me that my 3 kids have projects in school and need to buy supplies for that so I decided not to go there instead besides it just a free dinner. Fortunately, I'm so curious about this Astoria as I also received a call before but havent entertained it. with curiosity, I have checked my internet and do some research on the blog and now I found out that there's a lot of things here already happened and Thanks God for my kids who helped me realized that I we are in SCAM already. Thanks God... really.

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    1. Hi. Agree. It's really best to research a bit before entertaining questionable offers like these! God is good indeed :)

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  6. My gulay! Sadly, lahat na lang ng bagay ginagawan ng panloloko para makalamang sa kapwa :(

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  7. i kept on saying No but they still insist, they will give you another option from 480,000 membership down to their lowest offer na 11,000 for 1 year membership. i was just joking na 1k lang kaya ko idown, i was shocked kc pinatos nila, kahiyaan na din at 11pm na, nag-ok na ko and take note, cnamahan pa kmi magwidraw sa atm, humingi aq OR den sabi nya pag nafully paid ko na daw tsaka pa lang iisue ang receipt. Ok Fine! Sabi ko naisahan ako nun ah,, pero ok nlng skin kc parang bayad ko na lang sa dinner. I got my GC,, then ngsearch ako ng mga reviews and i found a forum na sandamkmak ang complains, i printed it out and decided to go back to their office, maybe for justice... ayoko kc ung feeling na naloko aq, 5:30 pm start ng office hours nila, kc sarado pa nung dumating ako. I looked for my sales agent told them that i wanted to settle the full downpayment, ang saya saya nyang lumapit skin,,, tas ibinalik ko GC, and asked for may 1k cash out,, nagastos daw nya,, haha... sabi ko di ako aalis dito na di muh binabalik skin un, wala daw xa mahiraman, sabi ko, hiram ka sa manager muh, ganda ng porma nya, imposible wala xa pera, may atm machine jan, samahan kita,, haha,, binalik ko sa kanya ginawa nya skin,,. Sabi ko sa sales agent, di kb natatakot sa ginagawa nyo, alam nyo na there's something wrong sa marketing strategy nyo,, Do something! Tahimik xa, alam kong aware cla dun. binigay ko ung print out ng mga complains sa isa nilang invite and told him na ipasa sa ibang invites, then umalis na ko... Lesson learned..

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    1. Oh my :( I am sorry to hear that. Pero tama ka this is a lesson learned for all of us. Thanks for sharing! :)

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  8. gusto ko sana isumbong cla sa media like imbestigador, but how come if they only entertain those who were called by their telemarketers.

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  9. I also received a text message a while ago from a certain femy cayading, she is from solano n. viscaya, fortunately sh's also an ilocana knowing our dialect well. she told me the same as the stories above, she negotiated that we will receive the prizes we won tonight at Isabela Hotel where Mr. Dennis Tobias will be awaiting. this is their manager. Since I received the text I was exited or even my whole family. but I came to open my Laptop to search of the AsTORIA and their promos, I learn this a special case of SCAM. thanks to the bloggers anyway.....

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  10. They're starting again this year. Got a text msg last wk and dahil na excite ako sa msg na nanalo ako (and i really filled up their raffle ticket from seafood island), i replied back. Today they called me and parehong pareho ng mga kwento nyo ang spiel nila. I said i'll be going sa moa astoria, smx convention center to claim it and pati narin yung free dinner for 2. But after reading all your comments, NO WAY i'll be wasting my time. Thanks for the blog tlaga. Kainis lang.... Got excited for nothing, kastart pa naman ng taon.

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  11. Same with us after almost three hours s astoria ortigas branch and I pressure kmi ng hubby ko to avail membership of them s ganun klaking amount o my gosh nkakahiya lng mamahiya ng tao..ang galing ng strategy nila pare pareho sa mga sinbi ng mga unang blog..buti nlng still indi kmi nglabas ng any amount un kng ung time nsayang..

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  12. Just got a call from their representative just this afternoon. She said I was referred by a friend but when I asked who, she said she cannot disclose who it was. Good thing I did some reseach first and came accross this blog so I won't be wasting any of my time. Thanks!

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    1. member po kami sa astoria at nakapag attend na rin kami ng members event nila with Mr. boy abunda and endorser.
      i think this is not SCAM

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  13. Hi the same thing happened to us today, Jan 28, 2014! We filled up a raffle stub last Jan 12 given during dinner at The Buffet in Commonwealth. The gay caller from Astoria said there's free dinner and asked if I had a special someone because there'll be music to serenade us, I guess. It was in Shaw Blvd which was too far. Good thing there's traffic so we decided not to go.

    We should've known this was dubious bec in the raffle stub made us indicate our salary bracket. Too intrusive!

    Thank God for this blog! That is a marketing strategy bordering on a SCAM. This has to trend! People, let's use social media to warn future victims. This has to be made public!!!

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    1. Hi Joy! Oh dear! I'm glad that they didn't "get" you with their antics.

      You're very much welcome. Feel free to spread our experiences here :)

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    2. Same din ba eto sa stellar hotel and resort. Same procedure eh. Buffet then may papanuorin. Then ng fill up din ako ng stub sa shell nman. Hayys hahah matindi na talaga ngyon lahat ng paraan makaloko lang

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    3. Same here po fill-up at Shell gas station then the next day received a text for a free dinner invitation at Strata 100 Ortigas. Glad to make a research and now decided not to waste my precious time to those evil people.

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    4. Hi. Same experienced. filled up a coupon at shell magallanes. Got a text saying i won a buffer dinner for 2 at astoria and a 3days 2nights accommodation on their hotels local or international. Then they called. Parang mag robot kung magsalita. Scripted kumbaga. At first, parang naniniwala na ako. Then they sched me later for the buffet and to pick up my raffle won accommodation. But then, parang something's fishy. So i searched kung totoo nga. Then woolah! Eto lumabas. Now ive decided not to go later. Thanks for this.

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  14. I also received a call today with regards to the astoria promo. And called bag of beans to verify that pero wala din ako nakausap na "agent" from astoria. Un kasi un sabi ng girl from bag of beans. Na overwhelm lang ako kasi for the fact na you won sa raffle. By the way, un name ng tumawag saken is koi aramante para may idea na din kayo. Thanks for these blog :)

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    1. Thanks for this info Mitsuko. Yeah. I find it super weird that they are asking for an "income bracket" sa raffle stub. And it's not a raffle to begin with, IMHO. Thanks again for taking some time to share your experience :)

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  15. Hei Ms. Kristine buti n lng i have read ur blog. Grabe tlga cla mang harrass. Ilang beses n aq tntwagan at tntxt. This was a raffle coupon i filled in at bag of beans. Thanks for sharing! E2 pla ung sample ng txt nla s akn. Guys be wise!!!
    Good afternoon Ms. Angelyn Gamboa. This is Mr. Dan Lorenzo from Astoria Plaza Hotel. Our address is SMX Convention Center (ground Flr. Near cebu pacific ticketing office and fedex) beside Mall of Asia (take the marina way going to giant ferris wheel) today March 29,2014 at 12:00pm to 1:30pm (opentime)for your free lunch for two. After the lunch, please set aside 90mins. of your time for the Hotel presentation and proper claiming of your gift certificate local or international of your choice (3 days and 2 nights at Puerto Princesa Palawan for local and international bangkok thailand, bali indonesia, las vegas nevada or orlando florida). Upon arrival kindly present one valid ID and look for Mr. Murker Oliva our manager. Thank you very much.

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  16. wow!!!!ako dn buti nlng nagsearch ko kng cno c murker oliva na hhanapin ko maya 6pm sa cabalen west ave..scam pla to after ko mag sign ng raffle sa shell station balintawak...tsktsk!...tnx.tnx..dnku pupunta mamaya..:)

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  17. Thanks for this info. They're still at it. Received a call and numerous text awhile ago. Same spiel but introduced herself as femy cayading. Happiness short lived but dont be fooled by this scammers. Ty

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  18. I almost give in on their good-to-be-true offer as well! first hand I asked the I almost give in on their good-to-be-true offer as well! first hand I asked the agent if just in case we like the offer that will be presented, can they give us time to think about it and decide whether to avail the said Holiday Ownership when we're ready and she said with a regretful tone "Ay ma'am naku one-day and one-time offer lng po ito khit na bumalik kyo dto as walk-in hnd n nmin kyo mbbgyan ng gnitong offer". she even began to humiliate us by saying "hnd nmn po kmi mgsasayang na pakainin kyo ng buffet just to let you go kagad". I let her introduced us to the so-called luxurious life and vacay ahead of us, when she was done with all the scheme (finally! after roughly 2hours) I told her we're NOT interested, she asked in a doubtful tone again "Really ma'am, I don't believe you po sure ako may ipon kayo based on your current job and wla nmn pong humahadlang s inyo diba po sir?" returning the question to my boyfriend, I felt sad for the sales rep, I answered in a respectful manner where I believe she will understand "Ms, we also have priorities and not to mention that you are offering us a life-long commitment we're not ready to take risk for, dont get me wrong, yes the offer is great but try to understand that hard-earned money are hard to let go as well" she rebutted with "ay naku ma'am hnd nmn kyo mpapahiya dto and hnd pla kyo handa p mglabas ng fund today sna sinabi nyo from the start" thats the time I started walking out before I totally lose my temper, she immediately asked for another 30mins for the Free accomodation voucher to be printed before we leave, I agreed, while waiting she offered again vochers amounting to 11k but I simply declined. her manager asked why we declined all the offers? I answered in a irritated tone "We somehow regret that we let you and your agent drag us upto this point where I can say very annoying, first hand you told me Wala pong pilitan ma'am/sir then ngaun iniinsulto nyo n kmi just bec we declined the offer" the manager started bragging how the company changed many lives and felt sorry we will never experienced the luxurious vacays. after receiving the Free accomodation voucher, which you need to deposit 5k pala if you will use it, the agent, giving a referral form, told us "ma'am KAHIT YAN NALANG PO ITULONG NYO, BAWI PO KAYO BY REFERRING someone you know, sulat nyo po number dto" I said "We have to go, I believe the insults and time were enough for the buffet, after all, kayo nmn tumawag at ng invite samin, SALAMAT!" there, a waste of time, a bad experience and sales strategy and most of all, worst scripting ever. Good thing we did not give in! Just sharing my story! be vigilant nxt time. Godbless them! :)

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    1. masarap b yung food? hahaha really its a good thing i read this blog. muntik n mabiktima

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  19. thanks God i was saved by this blog...was about to be lured by the text and call from Mr. Alvin Lunario offering free dinner buffet and a 3-day 2-nights hotel accommodation gift certificate. buti nalang i decided to ask opinion from my officemates whom they told me that it's a scam. they advised me to do research if Mr. Murker Oliva is among the list of the Asturia managers as introduced until i find this blog....was so grateful to read all these info and advices...

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  20. Ako din kahapon dito sa cagayan de oro pinapapunta ako sa hotel,pero tnx sa mga advise & sa internet.sa mga SHELL STATIONS na nman sila ngayon nagpapa fill up ng raffle coupon.

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  21. Hi Ms Kristine or to anyone who experience this already. Ngpirma po kasi Ng purchase of agreement Ng Astoria pero wala pa naman po kaming binigay na pera, just in case po n Hindi ko itutuloy Yung membership, kailangan ko pa rin bang mgbayad Ng 20k? Salamat po in advance malaking ruling po ang magiging advice nio

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  22. Me and my family also experienced this harassment by the Astoria team. Just this October 28, 2014 while we are at the vacation in Boracay, some guys wearing polo uniforms hurriedly talk to random people promoting their free buffet lunch for tomorrow. They would write their names on the piece of paper and then will ask you how many are you on vacation. Of course without us knowing it, my fiance took the paper and we are set for the free lunch the next day.

    We arrived at the Astoria de Boracay 11:30 and saw the guy who promoted the promo. He immediately assists us and gave us papers to fill up. This includes the job information, contact numbers etc. My parents were also asked about their jobs/business (mmm i don't know why are they so much interested on jobs...) So we took the advantage of eating the luxurious buffet (YUMMY!) and after that, another agent came to us and she had the longest presentation in my life lolz. From the hotel itself to the international offers, and bragging the other astoria hotels they have all over the philippines. My fiance is confident enough to handle the conversation. We even pretend to be interested with the offers since my family already talked about the conversation strategy that they might bring up. Finally, the moment they have been preparing for, a 'MANAGER' came to us with a piece of paper and hurriedly writes the amount of membership to be paid for. Enumerating the annual fees then dividing them into monthly installments blah blah. We nodded because the offer is almost a million so they cut-off the offer to a lower priced room which is a one-bedroom thing. But still a big NO from my fiance. It's a good battle though. The manager LOSE over my fiance's excuses probably because the latter is more experience in handling scammers.. hahahaha .. we won !!! :P

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  23. Actually, after we finished with Astoria, dun palang kami nakapag search about its scam. Grabe almost 10years na pla ito. Sana matapos na. Magtulungan tayong lahat!

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  24. Actually, after we finished with Astoria, dun palang kami nakapag search about its scam. Grabe almost 10years na pla ito. Sana matapos na. Magtulungan tayong lahat!

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  25. I also received a text message from Astoria today, March 27, 2015. The same scheme that you mentioned above. Buti na lang I have officemates who had the same experience before. What bothered me really in the text message I received was the statement, You may have some good news for you." The word "may" is kinda dubious. Kasi, if you really won the raffle draw, then it means a good news already. :)

    Thank God for the angels and small voices He sent, that I was able to avoid this time-consuming marketing strategy.

    By the way, the GCs they give cannot actually be used. Laging fully booked ang hotel. Hahahaha

    Be warned. Be wise.

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  26. I also lured by this Club Astoria gimmick and swiped my credit card for a DP of P21,000. At the end of the day I realized how bad my decision was. Pero wala na akong magagawa, nangyari na. Tumawag ako sa credit card company na may card ako, tinanong ko kung pwedeng ipa-hold yung incoming transaction from Astoria merchant but they told me it is not possible. It is a valid transaction and they don’t have the authority to hold the amount tendered unless I’ll ask the merchant to do so. Siempre hindi nila gagawin yun.

    Now I’m turning to my second option, since I’m currently employed in one of the globally known law firm, and seek help from one of our lawyers. He said to me “Do not pay anything” since I didn’t use any of their services/products. Hayaan ko lang raw na kulitin ako magsasawa rin yun, because if they will file a legal case against me it would only cost them more. Mas maganda raw sabayan ko ng DTI complaint against them to counteract what they would plan against me.

    Then about my credit settlement, that’s another matter. Pwede ko raw hindi na bayaran yun kung credit standing is not a concern for me dahil walang nakukulong sa unsettled credit card debt and this is not a estafa case. Pero pwede raw akong mag-file ng dispute letter saying the valid reason about why I won’t pay that debt just to create a positive vibes if still I want to protect my credit standing. Yung DTI complaint mo naman ang magpapatunay na malinis yung intensyon mo, ayaw mo lang talagang bayaran yung merchant na yun. Maaring mangungulit rin ito or they would summon a collecting agent. But still you can ignore it.

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    1. Hello.

      We also have the same experience. My concern now is the refund of the PhP20,580 we paid. What would be the best remedy?We only availed of the membership last June 27, 2015.

      Thanks.

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    2. Hello.

      We also have the same experience. My concern now is the refund of the PhP20,580 we paid. What would be the best remedy?We only availed of the membership last June 27, 2015.

      Thanks.

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  27. Got a call from these people(Mark Reyes, Francis ValdepeƱas) last June 4,2015, same story as with you guys, free buffet, free hotel. Filled up the promo stub at Caltex Daang Hari 2 weeks prior to the call. My wife and I got so excited, they scheduled us on that weekend and we agreed. We are all set to go, while waiting for my wife, with my phone on hand, I googled for that promo and this and some other articles came out, right then and there I told my wife we will go somewhere else, so thank you for sharing this.

    The way I see it, based sa mga experiences ng iba na nabasa ko, this is like "Budol Budol Gang Executive Version", may script sila na sinusunod, may mga kasabwat sila, papakitaan ka nila ng mga magagandang bagay, d ka nila basta basta papakawalan and kung mahina-hina lood mo to say "NO" to them, you will fall into their trap, and the free buffet and free hotel accomodation and pinang-bait nila sayo.

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  28. Hahahaha buti nalang nagresearch ako. Yesterday my boyfriend was offered the same but since it smelled something fishy I researched about this free dinner thingy and thanks to the bloggers. Until now they are still doing their dirty marketing tactics. Tsk Tsk Astoria Pity you

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  29. Same here muntik na kmi ng husband ko. Salamat s bloggers!

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  30. Budol budol indeed. We are about to go today for the free dinner! thank you google for saving our ass.

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  31. Same here. I just received a call from 0915-862-6962. I was offered for a Free dinner for 2. Sinabi na may nagrefer daw sakin na guest nila from Astoria Boracay. Nang tinanong ko kung sinong guest nila nagrefer, sabi sakin, hindi daw pwedeng sabihin at baka mawalan sya ng trabaho. Ang pinagtataka ko lang ay bakit nalaman nila full name ko at contact number. Pati trabaho ko alam. Some entities might have fed my information to them. BEWARE ANG LAHAT!!!

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  32. Thanks for this blog. Muntik na kami ng wife ko madala sa mga sweet words nila. Mag ingat sa mga ganitong modus.

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  33. we also won free dinner at astoria cafe in ortigas just today.thanks for all the bloggers.decided not to go then.these are their nos.09292715158/09294719201.the same modus like the old ones

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  34. We all have to be very careful of Astoria membership way of selling. If their product or service is good then why are they so desperate in selling? Here is my experience. I was invited by my friend to join her to attend an invite by Astoria selling hotel membership. After dinner, we are aware that we will listen to a 90 minutes sales talk. The sales talk could have gone well. However, I did not like the way how Astoria’s agent sell their membership. I was asked several times if I have the budget and money which I found very rude. The agent even compared their membership perks with my current job and housing. I was surprised that they give negative comments about my present situation just to make their membership look good. I was so disappointed attending their sales talk as I felt that the agent is trying to demoralize my situation. It is like I will look good if I purchase the membership and I am not if I did not purchase. I think that this is not a good marketing strategy as you are not supposed to make people feel bad just because they do not find your membership interesting. The way they talk to client is already a NO for me to buy their membership. I wish they could have made it more positive rather than like this. This is just a real review from my end nothing personal so do not be offended. I actually find the hotel old and not upgraded.

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    1. Hi all.

      i have been also a receiver of a gift certificate. They contacted me that i have won a buffet and a gift certificate for 3d2n for any hotel affiliated in bangkok bali davao malaysia and us.

      Before i went to their office i already checked the net since the way they relay the message was quick and will keep you the hang of excitement. I knew before there have been complaints regarding their strategy, but i still try to go on only having guts to face them and claim the buffet and the GC.

      I went around 7:30night in MOA.. I was entertained by a buffet. Then after my dinner comes the presentation. It was really long presentation.. But i comply with their requirements i make them feel like i am interested. They presented the perks and the offers that will only be given once you sign up for the night. They dont give the membership fee during the presentation.. The manager will do it for the presentor. I had kept the conversation going and attentive to the terms and flowery words they made.. And when the manager has entered the presentation.. He presented me a 10yr membership around 180k discounted to 150k. I just laughed with the cost of membership, decline their offer and I just inform them that i went there for theGC and not for anything else.

      Conversation done, the manager gave me right away the GC and the meeting is done.

      Lesson that I see in the situation.. It was not a scam.. It was just a bad strategy for them to offer the opportunity. You will be scammed if you let them.. If you know why you where there and you know where to stand to, they cant beat you nor give in to what they want.

      Or maybe the manager was just intimidated by the way i respond to his offer.

      Will try if i can book the gift certificate. :)

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  35. Hi guys,

    Seems like there are a lot of people who have been fooled by Astoria, well then I'll teach you how to fool them too if you follow these tips of mine.

    1st bring a car then when you're about to enter the buffet, don't tell them you have a car so they won't confiscate your parking ticket. Just pay for the 70 pesos or something parking fee then stuff yourself full from the buffet.

    2nd Before you eat, a guy that seems like the manager will give you a form requesting for further information. All you have to do to skip the 90min presentation is tell your friend to pretend that he/she is working in a travel agency. Why? Because travel agencies CANNOT purchase the presentation and they will actually be wasting their 90min pitching you their offer.

    Then you can get the free 3d/2n that you've won kasi you've actually won it. haha So that's what I did last night and it worked. I hope that if enough people will do this, matitigil na rin sila.

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  36. Hello. I also received a call (and a text) just today regarding this same marketing strategy. Out of too much excitement, I invited my friends, (Nuns, Dora, and RunningMan). RunningMan immediately declined the offer because he was close-minded during that time, on the other hand, Dora and Nuns seemed interested. So Nuns tried to research about Astoria, and we found ourselves reading this blog. Same tactics, same words, same offer...

    Good thing there are blogs like this! At least we're aware about this Astoria thingy.

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  37. So I availed their 1 year membership with lots of other coupons including 3 days and 2 nights free Astoria Bora or Palawan for 8K. I think it was perky since Boracay hotels would cost much more than what I paid. Plus I got discount coupons that I am selling to my friends now and the free Hotel accommodation in Bali Indonesia. As much as business is concerned, I didn't see any malicious intent as I was informed that there would be a presentation for 90 minutes (It actually just lasted for 20 minutes) before going there. I thought that there 30 year membership offer is ridiculous and laughable as if you're tied with them forever (boring right? like you wont try any other hotels anymore for the rest of your life!) but yeah, the Bora/Palawan offer is good and all the other perks. Well, I haven't really encountered any problem so far and I hope not, because I haven't used any coupon. My friend is about to lodge using a 50% coupon so let's see if I would have any trouble booking that. I'll follow up on this one.

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  38. We made the mistake of signing up with them. I gave my down payment without having the chance to do research. To my horror, when I got back to my hotel, I read a lot of bad reviews online. I also found out that the claim that the membership value increases overtime isn't true. We immediately called to cancel that night but we were offered other options. Once we got back to Manila and had internet access, I immediately sent an email to cancel the membership. Customer support responded in a reasonable amount of time and directed us to Credit and Collections department. Unfortunately, this department is a pain to have transactions with. They never reply to emails and calls you instead. I requested for them to reply via email so we will have a record but up to this date, still nothing. During one of the phone calls, I informed them that I will be consulting my lawyer about the 50K down payment just to check from my end if I can refund the whole amount but reiterated that I want the membership cancelled still (phone call + email). On the last day (where we can still get a portion of our down when we cancel), I still didn't get replies from them even when they promised to send one. When we followed up, they said that this was because we are consulting legal, so they had put the processing on hold. It's okay if there was a miscommunication but putting the blame on me why the cancellation was not done and saying "ang gulo gulo niyo" was unprofessional of them. If only they sent emails, then we could've avoided the problem. A part of me think that they intentionally do not reply to put us in the situation where the cooling period has passed and I can't get even the 30K. (within 10 days from signing up, you can cancel and refund 30k out of 50k). So think twice before signing any contract, this is a lesson I learned the hard and expensive way. I can't say if it's a scam or not because I did not try to avail of their services but their strategy is not 100% clean and honest. scheming in a negative way.

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  39. And it's now in Cebu. This happened to us very recently. I got to fill out a raffle coupon last January at Cabalen SM Cebu when we had an eat all you can dinner buffet. Yesterday I received persistent calls and texts from Trixie of Stellar Boracay Hotel that I won a 3/D 2/N stay at local hotel in Palawan and international such as Malaysia, Indonesia, etc valid for 6 months from date of issue. To claim the prize we need to go to Wellcome Hotel near Ayala as they also reserved daw 2 VIP seats with free dinner buffet and watch a 90min presentation. The hotel manager Mr. Edison Rosario would welcome us. I was so happy because I finally won a raffle outside company events. I really thought that it was my lucky day. I confirmed our meet up set at 6pm yesterday. Together with my husband we arrived at 5pm and we decided to look around at Wellcome Hotel and probably ask if the manager is really Mr. Rosario and if they have this promo raffle. I was disappointed that the Hotel was not the type I was expecting it should be (VIP seats huh?). That's why I haven't heard of it and initially thought it was just built last year. At the reception, I asked the attendant if Mr. Rosario was the manager. She said "NO" and told me that he is actually a manager of Stellar Office, one of their tenants. She immediately recognized that I received a text that I won the raffle seems to me that many have won and I started to be suspicious. I immediately googled in my smartphone for I might be victimized. And alas, found a lot posted on this kind of hardcore marketing strategy or scam however you may call that. We hurriedly left at the hotel and I texted the lady that I'm cancelling our free dinner and no longer interested to claim the vacation package. At first, the lady told me I could not cancel it cos she already paid our dinner. But I was firm I politely ask for an apology and still thank her. Glad she understood. Glad I did not attend and wasted our time. Glad I did not immediately post at fb that I won a vacation package xD

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    1. same thing with mine..i had a call also that I've won in a raffle. Same person as you mentioned. Ms. Trixie texted me today that we will meet tomorrow at MJ hotel Suites near Paklane at least now we have an idea that its a scam. thanks for the info.

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    2. Omg! Thank you Kristine for posting this. I had the same experience when we were in CDO 2yrs ago. They presented themselves as Astoria. We won a raffle daw when we gased up at Caltex. And just 2 days ago, while in Cebu now, we got the same offer from Stellar Hotel Boracay this time, exactly how you guys described it, with venue at Sarrosa Intl Hotel. And we declined as I recalled the experience we had in CDO which, thank God for posts line these, we were spared from having to deal with this worst marketing plot ever. Now, they're harassing my mother. Good thing I was around when they called her so I was able to immediately cut them off before my mother was talked into it further.

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  40. Hi! Pati astoria ortigas! Kakaloka! Nag lunch kase kame ni boyfee sa alba, may pa-raffle sila there ang price is free trip to japan. So nag fill up kame. 2 days after may tumawag nanalo daw kame ng free dinner for 2 sa astoria ortigas dahil nga sa raffle ticket na finill up namen. Okay.. So sabado yun sinabi ko kay jowa ko astoria na kame magdate, leche! Naka heels pa ako noh! (Naka tease pa ang hair) pagdating sa cafe astoria tinanong pa kame ano ang car namen. Lol! Well! What if sabihin ko naka bugatti kame?! (Siguro pinaka mahal na membership ang iooffer samen). (Joke lang! D namen afford un, ordinary na tao lang ang beauty namen). So ayun! Naalala ko lang may mga friends ako na nabiktima sa astoria boracay, so nung pinaupo kame sa table habang mag fill up ng form tinanong ako ng jowa ko kung gusto ko pa ituloy kase 90mins yun sayang oras. Sabi ko get ko na bebentahan lang tayo dito. Tinawag ko ung servant agad and sinabi ko "miss bayadanan ko nalang ung buffet dna kame jojoin sa presentation kase we're not interested (with matching roll eyes). Tapos! ~style lang nila yan free dinner na yan. Ang totoo icocorner ka nila to get membership, so papakainin ka nila para mahiya ka tumanggi at makikinig ka sa presentation tas on the spot payment na! Duh! Kakahiya style nyo club astoria, so desperate!

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  41. Hayy very nakakainis ang Club Astoria. Its really a mistake to invest. Im a member and di nila masunod ang gusto ko na schedule. ako ang gusto nila mag adjust sa gusto nila. magaling lang sila sa pangako habang nagbebenta... im sure marami kaming nagrereklamo

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  42. Was contacted by their sales rep today. good thing I saw this entry.
    I was asked by their rep to fill up a coupon while getting fuel sa Shell Maga. :(

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  43. Buhay na buhay parin sila.. today, my husband received an SMS from +63 921 468 5031. The SMS sounded suspicious kaya I decided to google it.. thank you sa mga nagpost ng experiences nila.. Kaya, I have decided to share mine too just in case may magsearch about it.. mukhang nagchange na sila ng venue sa strata ortigas na sila ngayon.
    Good afternoon! This is Ronel from Stellar Boracay Hotel. We have a reservation for you Tonight/Tomorrow Night in Strata 100 Bldg located at Emerald Ave., Ortigas Center, Pasig City(near Robinson's Galleria) for a Free VIP Dinner Buffet for 2, open time of arrival from 6pm to 8:30pm. After the dinner please set aside another 90minutes for the claiming and turnover of your GC of a 3days and 2nights Free Hotel Accommodation in one of our selected affiliates in either Local or Int'l destination. The GC is 6 months valid upon issuance. Upon arrival kindly look for Ms. Aldin at the Penthouse and present a valid ID. Guaranteed free with no obligations/commitment. Thank you!
    Your Stub #24631

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  44. Ung modus n gnawa ng astoria is gnagawa rin dito yan s naga city, camarines sur. Nagpapafill up rin cla s mga gas station at tatawagan k n nanalo k s raffle nila. Ang name n gnagamit at stellar. S shell and petron sila madalas magbgay ng raffle coupon. Ang sabi nila ang office ay dito s my flamingo hotel naga city. This is to warn ung mga taga naga n huwag n huwag kayong magfill.up. mga manloloko rin cila. No dti permit for the alleged rafffle

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  45. Hi i already bought their 1 year membership with 30 coupons in it , i dont think na scam ksi yung nabili ko is worth 8998 which is 3d2n lng ng deluxe room nla sa astoria good thing in here i didnt book in agoda ksi i have a vacation this aug 25,2016 sa palawan and then i plan to book with astoria buti nlng we are in boracay last june 19,2016 and they offer this to us so my membership for 1yr is only 8998 with 3d2n in astoria palawan I already call astoria palawan and confirmed na ung booking and they have given us a complimentary buffet and also 3d2n in malaysia/indonesia/thailand so i dont think scam yung na offer skn . Ksi they are open nmn and diniscuss nila lahat including yung 100k upto 800k membership . And okay lang din sknla na di ka kumuha di nila pinipilit . And ako kaya lng ako kumuha ksi on aug 25 mag stay din kmi astoria palawan mas nakamura pa kmi .ayun lng thankyou sguro it depends lang tlga dun sa mga consultant na namimiga ng client para makabenta .

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    1. Same i also have that kind of membership , mag papa book na ako , hope it works ,

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  46. salamat sa information tuloy pa rin ang mudos nila, nakareceived ako ng tawag kahapon inviting us to have a vip dinner for two, buti nalang nag search ako, nandito sila ngayon sa Negros

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  47. Actually it will depend upon the capacity of the person to avail the membership. But the thing is I guess most people experienced nabigla lng tlga sa decision because of their eagerness to necome a membership. First bubusugin ka nila then after that's the time they will explain using the best marketing strategies of a flowery mouth na macoconvince ka na mura ang kaninilang magiging offer once you've become their member. They will show you first all the advantages , and compare what will be your expenses. But if you become as member talagang malaki ang difference na matitipid mo na talagang mapapa amaze ka sa explanation nila lalo na when they explained ung mga properties nila. But then in the latter part. Kapag your are in a state of mind na na convinced ka to become a member then they will now discuss the other fees like maintenance annual fee of 10,000 and other member affiliations na around 5,000 so syempre kc nga excited ka, it didn't bothered you anyway. And then boom! you are now a member. Then suddenly, you will realize na parang there is something wrong on the decision you have made because parang it seems unpractical because you are now computing between their options and your calculations. Kc nga parang ung feeling na na guilty ka kc kumain ka sa kanila and the environment or feeling na you don't have no choice but to be a member. Ung tipong na hypnotized ka :) What rude there was the 20,000 non-refundable if in case you back-out and they were saying for legal fees and sayang naman. But sana man lang naisip nla at least more or less 2,000 - 5,000 non-refundable at least reasonable for their expenses in food, laway for marketing etc., That is why they become sugapa at nanamantala sa mga taong hindi naman super yaman at nangangarap lng maka-experience ng best vacation in life. So mag-ingat -ingat po talaga tayo sa panahon ngayon lalo na sa ganitong form of investment. Bakit kaya may mga ganyang company na di man lng naging considerate sa ibang tao at nanamantala lalo na ung gagamitin ang iyong kahinaan. Well kung sinuman ang nag-formulate ng 20,000 unfair non-refundable policy nila at hindi talaga reasonable eh simulan mo ng magdasal ng kasalan mo sa pananamantala sa mga tao.

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  48. Your blog just saved me. Thank you

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  49. Kakagaling lang talaga namon dun..Parang na hypnotize kami..We paid 29400..may alam po ba kayo in legal matter kung pwede ba talaga na di na refundable ang 20k?

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    1. un nga ang tanong ko rin.meron bang makakatulong para matigilan n ang kalokohan nila.

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    2. Kami almost 40k na nabayad namin hindi daw marerefund

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    3. Im also now a member ng astoria , ,, On a process na ako ng booking for the free stay , but parang binayaran na din namin yung sinasabing free stay , pag ma grant go kami ,, sayang kasi , pag hindi , bye bye money nalang

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  50. Hi! Just wanna share my very fresh experience regarding this. Well, I received phone calls this August 8th lang from an unknown number then the woman who called said I won 3d2n accommodation for one of the hotels of Astoria. I am to choose daw the location. She asked me if I recall daw ba filling out a raffle coupon sa Gerry's Grill in Market Market last July 29th and yes I do recall it naman. So we got invited for a dinner for 2 in Uncle Cheffy's located in Nuvali, City of Santa Rosa, Laguna the next day I got the phone call. My boyfriend and I were thinking that it was just exclusively for 2 nga lang talaga pero pagdating dun there were a lot of other couples din. Sabi tuloy ni boyfie, "akala ko pa naman tayo lang yung nanalo". So we ate then we were anticipating na the 90 minutes presentation. They managed to set my expectations naman na may ganun talaga during every phone call and text I got from them beforehand. We weren't expecting though na hardcore selling sya. However, it's a good thing my boyfriend and I are both firm and we know our priorities. It did not even take 90 minutes. We politely declined every offer and we emphasized we're just taking the GC. It went well. No insults or any rude conversations between us and the agent. The GC is with me now. What's left of me is to call their customer service if available ba yung preferred dates namin for Stellar Boracay before I start booking flights for us. I guess their strategy will only be a scam if you do not equip yourself with presence of mind and priorities in life. :)

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    1. hi, I have a schedule din today, you mean may GC talaga? hehe.

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  51. Go lang Monique enjoy your eating then don't forget to say thank you for the offer, don't get hooked with their offer and thank also the food ;)

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  52. Thank you for posting this blog! You just saved me and my brother for going here.

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  53. Thank u for sharing this...just reciv a call a while ago that is whay i decided to make a research...glad to see ur blog!!!

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  54. Hello, everyone.

    I received a call yesterday and today with almost the same dialogue (Astoria, free buffet, 3D/2N GC in Bora, 90min presentation). Then the person who called me up mentioned that she will text me the details. Since she mentioned it already it would be good for me. I need the text message to verify their details. As I read the text and searched Astoria's website it made me wonder... Why give me a free 3D/2N in a different hotel in Bora well in fact they have an affiliate hotel there? Because of that, I did further research and thanks to this blog my concern has been verified to be legitimate. My peace of mind outweighs the "scam"/scheme of free buffet and 3D/2N in Bora.

    Thanks again for this blog.

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  55. For me, it is up to you kung kukuha ka ng membership. Nakinig ako ng presentation nila, kumain ng buffet sa hotel, and nakuha nmn ung GC na wala kming binayaran. Tumanggi lng kmi sa offer nila na membership. Ang tanging sinabi lng nmn at the end of presentation. NDI NAMIN KAYA ANG MEMBERSHIP. Then sabi nila ok and thank you. tpos binigay ang 3 days 2 nights voucher.

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    1. nagamit nio na sir ang voucher? if yes, may mga extra billing pa kayo na binayaran o may biglaang babayaran pala? pls advise kasi kaka-receive lang din namin ng voucher and planning to use it. thanks.

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  56. Was anyone able to use the GC? I also have one pero hindi namin inavail yung membership nila.

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  57. And if you don't respond on their first message, the following day they will send another one with this context :

    Good day! as previously arranged an appointment has been made for you here at Stellar function hall located at the ground floor of Sarrosa International Hotel along F. Cabahug cor Pres. Quirino ave Cebu City. We are also pleased to confirm your complimentary dinner and claiming of your gift certificate. Everything has been set and prepared. 2 VIP seats are already reserved. We are looking forward to meet you tonight. We would like to ask your most convenient time of arrival. Your text reply is highly appreciated or you may also call this number for further assistance. Please look for Ms. Foyie Rodriguez (manager) Thank you and God bless.

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  58. Good day. My husband and I had a dinner in tagaytay. We were approached and told to fill out the restaurants promo. After several days we recieved a phone call regarding of a free dinner and gift certificate.
    We attended the said winnings.
    Then they presented the astoria membership. We signed up.
    We had just used our gift certificate in boracay. The hotel is nice and the people in charge were accomodating. It was clean and even we left our things invthe hotel and they clean the room, our things was still sets on its place.
    My husband had a great time in boracay. We had a nice hotel and we had a relaxation needed as a couple.
    The processing for booking has no hassle.
    Scam as they say but my husband and I had just a great time and we are looking for our next priviledge vacation in palawan.
    We are risk takers. If you wont try you would not know if it is a scam or not. As of now, we can say that we just used the gift certificate they gave us. We enjoy and praying that we had our boracay baby in my tummy. ��

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  59. I'm from Cebu, Thank you for this post and I feel suspicious, so start to google it.. And I saw this post and I received the same call and after convo I received a text message today for the invitation.
    Good Day! This is Ms. Trixie Reyes from Stellar Boracay Hotel. Our Venue : SARROSA INTERNATIONAL HOTEL ;F.Cabahug St.Cor.President Quirino Ayala Rd.Mabolo Cebu City .ON TOMORROW NIGHT at 6pm-7:30pm (opentime). For your free DINNER for two. After the DINNER , please set aside 90 mins. of your time for the proper claiming of your gift certificate local or international of your choice (3 days and 2 nights Stay either Puerto Princesa Palawan or Bangkok Thailand, Bali Indonesia, Kuala Lumpur Malaysia, Vietnam and or Orlando Florida) valid until 6 months upon issuance . Upon arrival please present one valid Id. Look for Ms.Foyie Rodriguez (our manager). Thank you very much. This is guaranteed free and no financial obligation.Thank you so much.This is Trixie Reyes.

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    1. The same message I got. I got the coupon from one of the restaurant at SRP. Tsk.

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  60. I'm from Cebu, I filled up in Golden Cowrie..Thank you for this and I feel suspicious, so start to google it.. And I saw this blog and I received the same call and after convo I received a text message today for the invitation.

    Good Day! Mrs.Lovette Carreon . This is Ms. Trixie Reyes from Stellar Boracay Hotel. Our Venue : SARROSA INTERNATIONAL HOTEL ;F.Cabahug St.Cor.President Quirino Ayala Rd.Mabolo Cebu City .ON TOMORROW NIGHT at 6pm-7:30pm (opentime). For your free DINNER for two. After the DINNER , please set aside 90 mins. of your time for the proper claiming of your gift certificate local or international of your choice (3 days and 2 nights Stay either Puerto Princesa Palawan or Bangkok Thailand, Bali Indonesia, Kuala Lumpur Malaysia, Vietnam and or Orlando Florida) valid until 6 months upon issuance . Upon arrival please present one valid Id. Look for Ms.Foyie Rodriguez (our manager). Thank you very much. This is guaranteed free and no financial obligation.Thank you so much.This is Trixie Reyes.

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  61. Same thing here, just today. Thanks for this post.I would have been there if I have searched about this stategy.

    .Just wanted to remind you of your reservation tonight.Kindly claim your privileges from STELLAR HOTEL BORACAY Nov.29,2016 tonight from 5:30pm-7:30pm. Our venue add:SARROSA INTERNATIONAL HOTEL F.Cabahog st.Corner Pres.Quirino Mabolo cebu city. Pls. look for Ms.Foyie Rodriguez at the reception. The stub you filled-up was selected to receive a free Dinner for two persons which also means that you will receive a Gift Certificate for a free 3 days/2 nights hotel accommodations for two in any of the following destinations: Bali, Indonesia;Palawan,Bangkok, Thailand; Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia; Vietnam and Orlando, Florida in USA. After your dinner kindly allocate 90 minutes of your time for our GC turnover,orientation and presentation.Just bring 1 valid ID.Thank you

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  62. Same here! Just today. Someone named Dianne David called and sent me that message. Good thing I did a little bit of research.

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  63. Grabe na victim kami ng husband ko. Nag file up nga sya ng form s isang gasoline station.then tinawagan na kami tinawagan buti n lng bago kami pumunta tumawag muna hubby s tita nya to confirm if is ds real. Sabi totoo nman ung dinner kaso kailangan m mag mber etc etc m. So d n kami tumuloi. Twag pa dn ng twag.
    So nag open ako google para mag basa ng blog kng meron ayon meron nga ako nabasa same case n scenarion.thank god d kmi pumunta aksaya sana pamasahe n time

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  64. They are still into this even these days.. Hoping to post picture of their raffle stub

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  65. Waaaaahhh!! Grabe 2013 pa ung mga unang comments 2016 na same strategy pa rin sila. kakatawag lang sakin ngaun. Same style..
    Nagfillup kami ng wife ko ng mukang raffle ticket na may nakasulat na Win trip for 2 to Tokyo Disneyland nung Dec4 sa Avenetto Trinoma. Kala ko naman sa Avenetto kaya nagfillup kami. After 3 days tinawagan na ako. Kung anu ung kwento ng scheme nila sa taas ganun din sakin. Bumenta sakin si ate na nakausap ko. Pero di ako nagconfirm kung pupunta ba kami or hindi at kung kelan kami pupunta para sa free dinner. After namin magusap ni ate sa phone sinabi ko agad kay wife. Scam daw to. Nabiktima daw sya ng ganito before pero Sunlife ung product. Sabi nya rin google ko muna.
    Ayun ginoogle ko.. nakita ko tong blog nato (salamat may ganitong blog) at may nkita din akong post/comment sa tripadvisor.
    Salamat talaga ng marami sa mga nagpost ng experiences nila na-warn po ako. Galing magsales talk ni ate diko pinansin ung warning ni wify. hehehe
    Kaya kahit gusto ko makuha ung free dinner di na lng ako pupunta.

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  66. Talaga po? Scam pala to? Confirmed po ba na hindi magagamit yung mga perks na diniscuss nila? Grabe i feel so upset for my friend tuwang tuwa pa naman siya sa promos and discounts DAW niya. Nagalaw pa naman ung pang 13th month niya. Sana po may makapagreply. Ty po

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  67. Me and my cousin went to boracay last nov 2016 , sa airport may nag bigay samin ng stub , free dinner daw , so kami naman pinatos na namin free eh , haha sabi ng pinsan ko try daw namin so pumunta kami , then may presentation nga ,, KAREN DALE ang name nung nag assist samin , tapos n aexcite kami couz maraming offer , and also cousin and i love to travel kaya nag pa member kami ,, its 8k up lang naman for platinum card holder which is a year membership ,, may 2 nights and 3 days stay sa astoria palawan , and also 2 nights and 3 days sa tie up hotel in bangkok , indonesia , malaysia im on a process now sa pag book

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  68. my husband and i were a victim of this scam of club astoria. unfortunately we accepted the offer since nahiya kame tanggihan yung agent. we thought it would be a good investment but realized it was not because after you paid fully the membership there will still be a maintenance fee amounting to 12k to be paid annually. we really wanted to cancel the membership pero nanghihinayang kame sa nahulog namin since nakalagay sa contract na wala kame marerefund na kahit magkano after reading this blog nalaman ko na may mga nakakapagrefund naman pala. we are actually paying for the membership for almost 21months including pa the 20,000 na deposit na hiningi nila so almost 124k na nahuhulog namin that saddens me a lot. inistop nanamin un paghuhulog pero un nga baka lang matulungan mo kame since you are working sa law firm eksperimento baka naman mabigyan mo kame ng advice kung anong legal action pede namin gawin para makapagrefund sa scam na pakulo ni astoria. actually i already talked to the agent na nakausap namin before pero ang sabi niya lang we can sell the membership since transferable but we are the one who needs to find a buyer then after that they will be assisting us for the transfer of contract. pero xiempre ayoko naman mangloko ng katulad ng ginagawa nila. please help us. thanks.

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    1. Hi I also signed up last month as a member of Astoria club. By any chance have u had any information on how to refund the deposited amounts? I only gave them my 17k on hand deposit and now they sent me an email to pay the complete contract in 2months to get more discounts etc. After reading all these testimonies I am now more doubtful kung itutuloy ko pa ba ung membership coz I don't want to waste more money syempre pinaghirapan un eh. Please if you get any information pra macancel ung contract and to still get the paid amount, please let me know thru my email jenxyudz@yahoo.com thank u again.

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    2. If you've paid in cash there's no chance that you'll get your money back. BUT if you've paid with your Credit Card, just call your bank and tell them that your card was stolen. That's what we did and the bank reversed all the payments. :)

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    3. If you've paid in cash there's no chance that you'll get your money back. BUT if you've paid with your Credit Card, just call your bank and tell them that your card was stolen. That's what we did and the bank reversed all the payments. :)

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  69. This is so good to be true! Saturday, I filled up the raffle ticket, then today, they called na to tell that I won the raffle. Dinner for 2 at Astoria Ortigas, yan pa lang suspicious na... Sorry, but we did our research too. May mga nagsasabi, nasasayo kung magpapaloko ka pero hindi ba naloko ka na when you attend and listen for their 90 minute presentation? It's a waste of your precious time. Think about it. Thanks for this blog!

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  70. Good things there is this portion i also dicovered that ASTORIA AND STELLAR is omly one company who have the same style of approach Beware of ASTORIA AND STELLAR THIS ARE PURELY SCAM hardly earned money guys dont put to waste

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  71. Good there is blog on this. 1 week ago me and my husband went to boracay to spend vacation. Then bgla may nag approach samen n kung pwede daw kami invite sa astoria gnun din 90 minute presentation and free buffet. Syempre sino tatanggi sa libre so sabi ko sa hubby ko cge punta tayo. Then kinuha ung personal details ko st hubby ko. Then after few hours tumawag samen un kausap nakin n attend daw kmi ng dinner time. So pgdating interview samen work.. salary etc.. then kumain na kmi. Duringvthe presentation na sense ko na parang may mali kasi habang tumatagal may pressure na sa mga salita. At ang hindi ko makakalimutan nung nag bigay na price ung manager nila name nun RAIN SALCEDO inilista ko tlga name nita kc sobra kami nillait at pinahiya sa mga andun at sabii niya samen WALA NAMAN PALA KAYO PERA pinahahaba ninyo usapan natin sabay tinauan kami mag asawa. Galit na kmi pero hindi lang kami ngpahalata kasi professional kami preho ng hubby ko. THIS RAIN SALCEDO IS ARROGANT VERY ABBUSIVE IN AUTHORITY. And i hope someone from the management do action on this. SABI NYA PA SAMEN MAG COMPLAIN KAYO I DONT CARE.!! Kaya tumahimik na lang kami mag asawa at hinintay naclang namin matapos iyong presentation kasi pag hindi namin tinapos babayarab daw namin iyong buffe. This is really a tragic experiece kaya WAG KAYO MAGPAPALOKO SA MGA YAN

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  72. Thanks cristie forcthis blog☺
    I will my experience with my husband when we had a vacation in boracay.
    Habang nglalakadckmi may nag approach samen na king pde kami invite sa astoria may presentation and free buffet kinausap ko hubby ko tpos pumayag naman siya. Kinuha details namin andcthen we left aftwr few hours tumawag iyong nag invite samen na lunch time daw kami so sabi ko ok sige. Madaling salita bagpunta kami pg dating dun interview ulet nung matabang manager name niya RAIN SALCEDOok namn siya kausap. So finish ang food thenceto nacpresentation habang tumatagal napansin oo na prang may mali bkt parangvpressure nila kami na bumili eh ang sabi no worries kasi hindi naman pilitan. So hingi kami ng price at etong RAIN SALCEDO ang manager nacnagcprice samen pagkakita ko ng price sabi ko hndi namin kaya aba sabi samen wala palackayong kwenta sbi mo knona pgvkays mo kukuha ka ngayon hndi mo kaya? Napaka arrogant nungvRAIN SALCEDO iniirapan pa kami na para kaming kawawa. Sabi ko mam bka ireklamo kita atvang sagot saken E DI MAGREKLAMO KA MANAGER AKO DTO sino ka ba?? Nanginginigvna ako sa galet kaso jinawakan ngchubby ko ang kamay ko kaya tinapos na lang namin ang presentation at sa sobrang pahiya payuko kami lumabas ng astoria. I just wantcto know why the managemejtvof astoria is tolerating her attitude pag ndi bumili binabastos nyo na mgs guest nyo. Tinanong ko kung sino at ano si rain salcedo sabi saken malakas yan sa taas kaya untouchable yan. kaya pala ganyan behaviour niya.Sana lang bgyan ng pansin mga manager niyo na abusado sa position nila at walang modo

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  73. Hi Kristine,

    This is to share lang our recent experience with Astoria. My husband won a complimentary 3D2N stay in any of Astoria tie-up hotels (from Shell promo). We were invited last January 26 in SMX (their office) and we both agreed to attend na rin (may free buffet e *wink). The Marketing staff named Jay (forgot the last name) did the presentation. But prior to his presentation, I can sense na there is something about this meeting. I realized na o-offer-an kami ng membership nito. And it's true. At first, getting-to-know ang eksena. Na he's from Las Pinas also blah blah blah. He even mentioned na I was "timang" daw. I forgot what we were discussing that time e and besides I just want to keep silent na lang as he do all the talking. And then they discussed na we need to shell out 400k+ for the membership if we want to avail daw one night only offer. Hanggang sa bumaba ng bumaba ang offer. But when their convincing strategy did not make any magic, they immediately ended the presentation. What's surprising is that they didn't bother to discuss us the details of the complimentary: how we can use it, what are their tie-up hotels in Cebu and other stuffs na gusto sana namin itanong. On our way home, we were relieved na we did not pay anything. My worry lang is that if ever gamitin namin, baka naman pagdating namin sa hotel ay katakot-takot na billing ang bayaran namin. So I decided to call their office today to ask ano mga tie-up hotels nila. I checked their website for the contact details. Since may problem ang outgoing calls namin sa office, I called 09177906985, but to no avail, walang nasagot. I'm just wondering lang if Shell and their other "tie-up" companies know all about this. Madadamay din kasi ang credibility nila. Sana yung mga "nakakadudang" offer na ganito is makarating sa DTI and ma-clarify nila if this is legit. For those who have second thoughts on this, please take time to research. Thanks for taking time reading this.

    Jane

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  74. Thanks for sharing your stories. They just called me now, the coupon I filled up was just last Feb 2 upon dining in at AVenetto Glorietta. Muntik na talaga ako maniwala if hindi ako nag check sa web. I am always conscious when ask to fill up things sa mga Supermarket, malls etc sa fear na gamitin ang details ko kung saan saan lalo Marketing, kaya I dont provide my true identity or number. But sa ganito din palang ways meron, akala mo legit. It only shows gaano kababa income ng mga businesses na to para gumamit ng ganitong tactics - desperate. Kailangan pang manloko ng kapwa. Tama, na dapat check ng huge companies pakikipag tie up nila with this. Bad publicity lang instead nakukuha ninyo Astoria with what ur doing.

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  75. Hi, i just had the same exerience with Dennis Tobias. I should have checked this Astoria promo before I accepted the invitation. He was rude and even charged us the buffet dinner for not finishing the 90-minute presentation. I will definitely report this guy to Astoria avacation and Leisure Club Inc.

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  76. Hi, i just had the same exerience with Dennis Tobias. I should have checked this Astoria promo before I accepted the invitation. He was rude and even charged us the buffet dinner for not finishing the 90-minute presentation. I will definitely report this guy to Astoria avacation and Leisure Club Inc.

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  77. I would like to relate my horrible experience with AVLCI and how it ruined the rest of my vacation at Boracay after attending their presentation and paying PhP 55,120 for downpayment.

    I arrived at Boracay around 4:00 PM on 12 February and since it was my first time, I immediately got to walking to check out the island. When I reached Gerry's Grill, a guy approached me and mumbled something I couldn't understand. I stopped to clarify what he had been trying to tell me. Big Mistake! I should just have continued walking and ignored him. He said they are offering free lunch buffet in exchange for 90 minutes of my time. I asked him presentation is about what. He just told me something like basta, or something like that. So I gave my name and telephone number. Big Mistake!

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  78. The next day, I was still sleeping and my phone kept ringing and receiving text messages reminding me of the lunch buffet at Astoria. I did not want to go there because I was still tired and sleepy but they were annoyingly insistent. So I relent.

    I ate a mediocre buffet and sat through more than 2 hours of intense and personal interrogation. It was never a presentation. It was grueling interrogation. I did not want to answer most of the questions as I am a very private person but the holiday consultant was trained to get into your head and manipulate you into spilling your beans.

    Personally, I don't believe that this business model is a scam. Timesharing is an existing business product that is extensively used in the USA. In the Philippines, only the Astoria and Azalea Properties are registered with RCI. RCI is a timesharing agency that affords a member an equivalent amount of occupancy into other hotels, resorts, or condominiums within its network. But let's talk about RCI later.

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  79. The holiday consultant was able to entrap me into entering into a contract by telling me a silly lie, which I admit had been very stupid on my part to have bought it. She told me that if I joined now and paid the downpayment, I will be able to avail of the RCI membership. If I decided to buy later, I will not be able to avail of the RCI membership and would only get the Astoria Palawan showcase. Total dirty liar.

    When I reached my hotel, I immediately searched about the calculating scheme of RCI and found this blog.

    The Holiday consultant kept me in the dark about the actual cost of membership until the very last minute. But I will reveal the cost here for everyone's benefits.

    The contract is for 30 years which gives the member 7 nights and 8 days each year at Astoria Palawan for 6 persons. Through timesharing within Astoria Network, a member may avail of the same 7N/8D at other locations in Boracay, Bohol, and Ortigas for PhP 3,000. Through time sharing within the RCI network, an accommodation at Orlando, Florida, would cost a member SG 388 (Singapore dollars, since Astoria is under the RCI Asia-Pacific network).

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  80. The holiday consultant told me that the Palawan property costs PhP 26,000 per night. Lie. Upon checking with Expedia, although it got a Very Good Review (4.2/5.0), it only costs 13,000 per night. Also, as a member, you are not allowed to avail of the 7N/8D accommodation during Chinese New Year, Christmas, New Year, All Souls Day and other special holidays in the Philippines. In other words, you are only allowed to scavenge on the least attractive days.

    The Membership has two options and costs PhP 950,000 (and discounted 20%), which becomes PhP 760,000 for a single room with 3 beds that can accommodate 6 individuals. A single room with 2 beds that can accommodate up to 4 individuals costs PhP 689,000 (minus 20%) becomes PhP 551,200.

    Also, there is an annual maintenance fee of PhP 10,000 for 4-person room and PhP 12,000 for the 6-person room, for 30 years, which will increase by 10% every 5 years.

    For timesharing within Astoria network alone, this is a very good offer. If you include the RCI network, this offer becomes even more fantastic. However, when you check the complaints of people, especially Americans about RCI, this is as bleak as it gets as RCI has consistently defrauded its members by selling the available rooms/units to booking agencies and informs its members that there is no availability at the times the members intended to book even if the members booked 1 year in advance. Also, there is an annual $150 membership fee with RCI. In other words, RCI membership is basically useless. However, in order for an individual to be a member of RCI, he has to have time shares, which can only be acquired through the timeshares purchased from Astoria through AVLCI

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    1. I agree, when you have your vacation abroad, you will only get the not so nice rooms!

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  81. Americans have told of horrible stories where they exchanged their time share points in other countries only to be billed several times more than the booking costs through websites. In other words, and I'm going to say this again, RCI is useless and all the things they promised and the things the Astoria people promised, are all lies.

    Astoria has a good intention in giving away timeshares, only within its network. RCI is also a fantastic agency if only it lived up to its business model, but sadly, it doesn't based on the accounts of the majority of its members.

    Let me clarify, the AVLCI is not a scam by any measure. It is a legitimate business model that offers 7N/8D accommodation at Astoria Palawan for free (once you become a member) and 7N/8D at other Astoria and Azalea properties throughout the Philippines for PhP 3,000.

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  82. However, the membership requires you to sign up for 30 years, which is a very long time. And a 30-year membership costs almost a million pesos, which, let's face it, is impractical at best. Are you going to spend close to a million pesos for vacation when you don't have anything to eat the next day? Impractical, right?

    Also, the strategy at which they lure prospective customers is deceitful and shady at best.

    Too bad. They have nice and legitimate product but the people who are selling it market it like they are like drugs.

    I have cancelled my membership today and hopefully am only expected to lose PhP 20,000 as I have paid PhP 55,120. There has been no known or confirmed account where one successfully got back their money they paid that exceeded PhP 20,000. I'm crossing my fingers.

    PhP 20,000 is a lot of money for a mediocre buffet and a fancy envelope.

    I really regret not refusing an offer of free lunch buffet. And PhP 20,000 is a lot of money for learning a stupid lesson.

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    1. If you've paid in cash there's no chance that you'll get your money back. BUT if you've paid with your Credit Card, just call your bank and tell them that your card was stolen. That's what we did and the bank reversed all the payments. :)

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  83. so lucky ive search in google.. pati sana ako napilitan.. tnxs

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  84. Ive just read this blogged but too late ive already signed up for their offer but not too late to pay kc dko dala credit card ko that time but we had internal arrangement that they will transact na lang dito sa bahay on yhe other day pag di na ako busy.ang problema ko anu ang magagawa nila sa mga papers na pinirmahan ko?pwede kaya nila ako kasuhan and let me fine for 20k as i signed in the contract?

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  85. A certain JOB PEREZ called me yesterday. Same scheme.. buffet dinner for 2 for winning raffle after having dinner at Mr Choi in Robinsons Galleria. He offered hotel accomodations for abroad and Astoria Cebu...
    This scheme / scam has been going on for far too long now...
    If this is a scam, who gets to nab them???

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    1. Magagamit ba talaga yung free na 3days at 2nights accomodation? At maibabalik din ba yung 5,000 na reservation?

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  86. Thanks for saving me from this scam. Just got a call from STELLAR yesterday telling me that I won a complimentary 3D/2N Accomm in Palawan, Thailand etc. and inviting me for a FREE dinner buffet for 2 @ ASTORIA ORTIGAS. Good thing I did my research first, almost got tempted to attend tonight.

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  87. Thank you for people like you. You just saved me from this scam. Just got a call from STELLAR yesterday telling me that I won a complimentary GC 3D/2N accomm in Palawan or Thailand etc. plus inviting me for a buffet dinner for 2 in Astoria, Ortigas. Good thing I did my research first, almost tempted to attend tonight. Phewwww!

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  88. Unfortunately I was also a victim. :( Me and my boyfriend went to Boracay last January and was lured by their agents. I really hated myself for wasting my time and money. The agent will mention expensive trips and accommodation so their offer will seem affordable and a wise investment. Their offer looked to good to be true and I felt stupid not to analyze first before signing the contract. I know I won't refund my hard earned money but I really want to cancel the contract. Can anyone help me? Thank you in advance.

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  89. Unfortunately I was also a victim. Me and my boyfriend went to Boracay last January and was lured by their agents. I really hated myself for wasting my time and money. They will mention expensive accommodation and trips so their offer will seem affordable and a wise investment. It seemed to good to be true and I felt stupid I didn't analyze first before signing the contract. I know I won't be able to refund my hard earned money but I want to cancel the contract. Can anyone help me? Thank you in advance.

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  90. got called and i said YES! (libre eh) but then they started txting multiple times, soo naghinala na ako.. libre na nga, tapos sila pa yung atat?? and.. here I am..

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  91. I am now here in Boracay with my sister and mom. Sa jetty port pa lang someone approached us with free buffet nga daw, he even asked us kung ano work namin. We decided to go sa free dinner nila kase why not? Free e. But we were really skeptical to go. Sabi ko pa nga sa ate ko "free buffet, ano kaya ang kapalit?" Then so yun na nga, we went to astoria hotel. Before binukasan ang buffet. May lumapit na "MANAGER" daw na hindi naman mukhang manager. Tapos ganun din ang tanong, kung ano trabaho namin. Medyo na ano lang kame kase their questions are like really personal. So un, nag dinner na and all that. Tapos may lumapit nga na bading forgot his name siya nag assist sa amin para pumunta sa astoria current which is located in station 3. Pinakita sa amin ung hotel, syempre nagandahan talaga kame. Then pumasok kame dun sa office daw nila, daming tables at sobrang ingay. Kame ng sister ko alam na namin na may membership ito, so sabe ko sa knya wag natin pakita na interesado tayo para hnd na tumagal. Pero yung style nila is, ang dami munang kwento hanggang sa tumagal kame ng tatlong oras dun. Nakakainis lang, kung sanang yung tatlong oras na un pumarty na lang kame. Yung bading na kausap namin, kinwento pa ang drama ng buhay niya para makuha loob namin. Haha pero good thing is, we declined all the offers pati ung 8k na pinaka mababang offer nila. Ang sabi ko kaya namen kaso we have priorities, before we invest sa ganyan uunahin na namin ung ibang bagay. Hindi rin naman kame mahilig mag travel. Tapos pinakita sa amin nung bading na disappointed siya. Nakakainis na experience ito! Sinayang nila oras namin. Tapos talagang No lang ako ng No. Nung palabas na kme sa office nila, hinatid kame sa labas nung bading, pilit niya akong tinatanong kung hnd ko ba talaga kaya, kase alam daw niya ang work ko 50k daw sahod. Which is true, at more pa dun. Pero kailangan pa ba talagang itanong sahod ko? Parang tanga lang. so un, para naman kahit papano sumaya siya. Binigyan na lang namin ng 300 pesos. Tinanggap naman. Ganun ba sila ka desperada? Such a shame!!! Fuck you astoria!

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  92. Geez.. to begin with, thanks Kristine for your initiative. I got a call from them today from a Joyce Angeles, and her spiels are pretty much the same from the others here. I began to wonder kasi she kept saying "No financial obligation sir, all you need to bring is your ID". In fact I recorded the conversation because I felt there's something wrong. Prior to ending the call, she asked the occupation of my better half (which I find irrelevant since I should be on the spotlight if indeed I was selected, so I told her she's self employed, then she asked "business din po ba sir?" Gladly answered her "not really, She has her own Law Firm" then all of a sudden the excitement on her voice got drained. It's been an hour waiting for her text to give me the details on where to claim the certificate but heheheeh.. looks like she chamged her mind. So while scrolling down the page and seeing year 2013... 2014... 2015... 2016... and this year, all I can see on the page are the words "OFFER... MEMBERSHIP.. SWIPE.. and WITHDRAWAL. Well, that summarizes my research. Damn, why do these evil beings exist? Again thanks everyone for sharing.. Kristine.. high five! GOOOJAB!

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    1. Haha. Thank you Lhoozyo for your kind words ;)

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    2. Ano po kaya ang dapat kong gawin ma'am nabiktima din ako nito recently lang ng magbakasyon kami sa boracay with my friends. Pero wala pa naman akong na down na pera at pina fill up at sign lang ako ng mga forms tas binigyan nila ako ng deadline kung when ako last pwede mag bigay ng down na 15k sa june 15. Tas may naka sulat sa contract pag hindi daw ako tutuloy may fine daw 20k na dapat kung bayaran... please advice me po.

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  93. Thanks for this information....We have the same experience and decided not to continue... =)

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  94. Hi we've experience the same thing when we happened to visit boracay last August 2016. Pagka bungad mo plng habang naglalakad along the beach Stn 3 may lalapit agad sayu at mag offer ng free lunch or dinner and invitation about Astoria. Kadami dami nila sa palibot nagiikot ng kanilang victims. Kya Buti nlng at na warningan kami ng friend namin about Astoria before we travel kya na alarmed kami. Kc sya na victimized nkbayad sya ng 300k. The other friend also naka bayad Din 300k. Imbis vacation ang Punta mo problema pa haharapin mo.Masayang panahon mo at oras kung entertain mo mga to. Dapat dito report sa t3 para ma investigahan ang modus nila. Para mawakasan ang panloloko nila sa Tao.

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  95. Thanks!! My dad got a similar message tonight, he even confirmed it with Shell Davao, from Stellar Boracay naman ito. A little bit sad for my dad though, he was so excited about it :(

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  96. Just received a call today. Good thing that I suspected this before going there tom on the free buffet thing. Thanks for sharers of their experience.

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  97. Ei guys! there is another name in Davao City (Stellar Villa Margarita Hotel) yet the same description I think? Around March if I'm not mistaken I signed up a free stub at Shell shop J.P Laurel. and then yesterday, when my husband informed me that someone rings my phone and exclaimed that I won a gift certificate for 3days 2 nights vcay at some destination with free dinner/lunch buffet. wow! I was claiming that at last I'm not a loser on raffle tickets. lol! However, I felt something negative because they kept on updating and checking me if we're coming so, I did not think twice to check it on the website regarding stellar vacation club. And no doubt it is! oh! no... God saves the innocent and those hard earners.. waaaa! thumbs up to this blog.. you're brave! God bless

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  98. My husband received a call today, saying he won a 'dinner for two' after filling out a raffle stub at Shell Station in Balintawak. I've read in the earlier comments that they experienced the same thing at Shell Balintawak too. Are these companies selling their customers' info to Astoria and the other hotels? The lady eho called also asked if my husband was still single (which he wasn't 'coz we got married the day after he filled out that raffle stub). We surely aren't falling for this scam, thanks to this blog post. Thank you, Kristine!

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  99. Hi,

    I'm planning to cancel my membership. Is it possible to have our money back? The payment is linked to my credit card. We started monthly payment last December 2016. Please help me.

    Thanks!

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  100. Ace the blaze3 May 2017 at 08:05

    Thank you for this, so it happens that I received a phone call yesterday and they are inviting me for that free dinner today, i asked them how did they managed to contact me, they said a friend of mine referred me in their Boracay branch, but when I asked them to give the name of that friend of mine they were unable. gigidy! Gigidy! Im from bulacan and I'm about to waste my time going to ortigas? No way! Nah! Gimme a break...

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  101. Got a call today too saying i won a ticket for 2.:
    Good Afternoon Mr. ....... This is Ms. Debbie from STELLAR BORACAY HOTEL. Our venue: HELEN'S KITCHEN Beside Jollibee Buhangin (Infront of Garden Suites) Davao City. (Same ave with Abreeza mall) May 05, Tomorrow night Friday at around 05:30-07:30pm for your FREE DINNER for TWO persons. Right after the dinner please set aside 90 minutes of your time for the turn over and claiming of your gift certificate Free Hotel and Resort Accommodation either Palawan for local, Bangkok Thailand, Bali Indonesia, Kuala Lumpur Malaysia and Orlando Florida for Int'l.(3days and 2nights,valid for 6months.) The gift is 100% guaranteed free and NO commitment on your part. Upon arrival,kindly present one valid I. D. Look for Ms. Foyie Rodriguez our manager. We are looking forward to see you.Thank you

    Too good to be true.
    This is what probably scammers always do.

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  102. Same. This STELLAR VACATION CLUB is on the loose to scam or mislead people. Good thing nag check muna ako.

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  103. Nabiktima ako nito recently lang ng magbakasyon ako sa boracay. Hindi pa naman ako naka pag down ng 15k pero binigyan nila ako ng deadline hanggang june 15. Naka saad sa contract na pag hindi ko daw to nabayaran eh may fine daw na 20k... so ano po dapat ko gawin ma'am? Pa help naman po.

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    1. Pariho po tayo ng sitwasyon.nka pasa na po kami ng termination letter..kinukolet parin ako.sana matulongan nyo po ako.

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  104. Is it possible for us to make a group so that we can discuss what are the legal steps we can do. Since most of us are victims of that evil strategy.

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